Meeting Minutes
Friday, April 30, 2004
Volume 11; Issue 16

 

Table of Contents


Committee Reports

Membership Report
(Click here to go to the Membership page)

Mark Dreher is going to approach a company client that provides courier services about joining our group.

Bill LaLonde completed part 1 of the membership application for Amy Ahrensdorf, the owner of a personal chef service called Love at First Bite.

Greg Stewart mentioned a few categories to consider and it just took off from there...So think about the following this week:

  • Hardware Store (i.e. Ace Hardware)

  • Health & Fitness Club

  • Personal Trainer

  • Home Inspection

  • Home Warranty

  • Martial Arts

  • "An Honest" Business Broker

Social Report
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No report.

Speaker Coordinator Report
(Click here to go to the Speaker Schedule)

  • 05/07/04     Dave Crissman
  • 05/14/04     Panel Discussion "Positive Solutions for Changing Times"
  • 05/21/04     Gus Dekavallas
  • 05/28/04     Fred Vandervort

We have open speaker slots.  Please contact Wayne Unruh to get on the schedule.

Treasurer Report

No report.


Leads Report

46-28, 46-29, 46-18, 37-02, 17-34, 17-41, 32-38, 29-28, 24-28, 10-19, 07-23, 21-25, 21-34, 21-13, 21-07, 13-26, 13-32, 11-25, 03-15, 27-32, 31-21, 40-13, 40-18, 19-41.


Notable Mentions

None.


Mighty Minute

None.


Question of the Day

Which business category can bring you the most business?

  • Bill LaLonde - George Booth, Jim Crosman...anyone that is in a person's backyard.
  • Dave Lathrop - Hair dressers...They talk to people all the time.
  • Jana Greene - Party planners, wedding planners
  • Mike Whalen - Anyone, large corporations
  • Mark Dreher - Bankers

The Google Auction...Andy, Can You Comment?

If it works, it will be good for the company but probably not for the buyers as they will be paying a high price and it will most likely drop from there.  You won't see a lot of institutional buying.  A lot of people could loose a lot of money.  The traditional way of selling company stock is probably the best.  The logistics of what Google is trying to do...I just don't know how it would work.


Main Speaker 

Paul Kavanaugh
Mountain Moving & Storage Co., Inc.

Paul Kavanaugh was born and raised in Louisville, Kentucky.  He joined the United States Air Force right after graduating from high school.  After 4 years he left, bought his first truck and began working for Allied.  He got married and now has two teenage children.  His daughter is 16 and his son is 15.  After 20 years as a trucker, his wife gave him an ultimatum...stay home or pack your bags and keep on truckin'!  He stayed and bought Mountain Moving & Storage. 

His company has grown considerably.  They are now military approved and an agent for National Van Lines.  Their storage facilities are very modern including climate control.  They provide a wide range of moving options both locally, long distance and overseas.

Local Moves
Local moves in Arizona can be tough because Arizona is a deregulated state.  Anybody can rent a truck, put an ad in the yellow pages and call themselves a mover.  Just know who you are doing business with. 

Paul recommends that you go through your house, get rid of what you don't need and move the rest.  Pack your own books, clothes, anything not breakable.  Put valuables together and move the small things yourself.  Do call a mover to help you with the large and breakable items.  It may sound cheap and easy to just rent a truck and do it yourself but you will find that your friends are suddenly busy that Saturday.  Avoid the stress and plan ahead. 

Long Distance
Long distance moves are a different animal.  Don't do it yourself!  It may sound cheap at first but it is not.  You pay for the truck plus mileage.  If the truck breaks down you have to move all of your items into the new truck and there is no insurance to cover your valuables.  The trucks may go 60mph tops and you will have to push them up hills. 

Use a moving company but pack everything yourself...that is were it gets expensive.  Leave the fragile stuff to the movers.  They will then be responsible if it breaks. 

Many companies will try to sell you on insurance.  This is icing on the cake for them.  Typically, your homeowners policy will cover you.

Contracts
There are three ways to contract on a move.

  • Bottom Line Discount - The salesman puts a weight value to every piece of furniture.  They then come up with an assigned value per pound.  Then they discount the bottom line based on the tariff.  People tend to get upset when the bill ends up being higher because the weight ends up being more.
  • Not-to-Exceed Price - Where they tell you the price won't exceed, say, $5000 from point A to point B.  After they weigh it, the price could be less.
  • Guaranteed Price - This is suited for smaller moves.

International Moves
International moves require a lot of different people to handle the goods.  You should define an agent to handle everything from point A to point B.  An agent will evaluate, package and take your goods to port.  Another will have the contact overseas that will handle your goods over there.  Sometimes it can be just as cheap to ship something overseas as it is to ship it to New York.  It just depends on what it is.

Autos
Paul works with several different companies that ship autos.  They will shop around and get the best price for your type of move. 

Truckhold Freight
This move is typically for things like offices closing.  It is a lot less than shipping households.  Less handling is involved.  They are charged per weight, then mileage.

Internet Movers
Watch out for internet scams.  They ask you to type in your information and they tell you how much it will cost.  They broker out your job.  When this company shows up to do the move they charge you 3-times the quoted rate.  20/20 did a special on it.

Just Remember...
Things happen.  Movers are not surgeons.  There are a lot of reason things get broken.  It could be the movers fault.  But a lot of times customers "cheap out" by not letting the movers properly pack fragile items.  Mountain Movers has a disclaimer that if the customer has glass, pottery, etc. that they don't want the movers to pack, the customer is responsible if it gets damaged.  Most damage occurs during loading and unloading.

Also remember that they busy season is from May 15th to October 1st.  If you want to move something under 2000lbs, wait until the off season or expect to pay a lot more.

And don't count on the railroads to help you any time soon.  If they got their act together they would put a dent in the trucking industry but they are still controlled by the government.  They go by their own time schedule and they don't budge!
 

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