Meeting Minutes
Friday, June 18, 2004
Volume 11; Issue 22

 

Table of Contents


Committee Reports

Membership Report
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No report.

Social Report
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No report.

Speaker Coordinator Report
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  • 06/25/04     Randy Clark
  • 07/02/04     No Meeting
  • 07/09/04     Amy Ahrensdorf
  • 07/16/04     Panel Discussion "Franchises"
  • 07/23/04     Board Nomination Speeches

We have open speaker slots.  Please contact Wayne Unruh to get on the schedule.

Treasurer Report

The quarterly statements have gone out.  Please make sure they get paid.


Leads Report

20-17, 20-43, 20-15, 20-10, 20-45, 12-34, 18-40, 24-13, 05-46, 10-32, 10-29, 07-35, 07-28, 07-46, 45-31, 30-40, 30-41, 15-13, 21-07, 13-32, 13-05, 04-41, 04-42, 27-28, 27-21, 19-02.


Notable Mentions

Gary Nelson is still looking at the end of July as his grand opening date. 

Wayne Unruh found a way to get a free auto detailing from Mike Tanner.  All you have to do is get wacked on the 101.  Who knew it could be so easy!


Mighty Minute

None.


Question of the Day

None.


Main Speaker 

Positive Solutions For Changing Times
Panel Discussion

Panelist:  Dean Synan, Greg Stewart, Mike Whalen and Robert Busch.

How have market conditions changed in this country and in your business?

Greg Stewart - There have been significant changes in America, Arizona and Phoenix as a result of:

  • 9-11
  • The recession
  • Al Qaeda threats
  • The highest credit card debt in history
  • Lay-offs
  • High unemployment
  • Less dollars for discretionary spending
  • Internet shopping
  • Industrial closures
  • Negativity from media
  • Election year
  • Wal-Mart openings
  • War on Iraq
  • Changing buying habits

Robert Busch - I track my business carefully and election years are the worst. 

Paul Kavanaugh - I agree with the affect election years have on business but in my industry, everyone I talk to is doing great.  Nothing is going along with the norms.  

What changes have you seen in your own business?

Robert Busch - Our industry is becoming monopolistic.  One company is taking control of manufacturing, retail and even insurance.  It makes it awfully tough.  I choose not to buy their products.  I tend to go to the smaller companies.  Some consumers think I am just a mom-and-pop store with limited products.  In fact, I can offer a wider variety of more quality products because I am independent.  I can stay competitive because of this and the fact that I have low overhead.  Internet retailers can't be forced to follow industry standards because they cross state lines and the fed's don't want to bother with it.

Mike Whalen - Some of our suppliers have set up local distribution centers.  This has led to an increase in competitors because of easier access to supplies.  In order to compete and grow, we are going to open up show rooms and set up a large manufacturing unit.  We are also selling off our sportswear side of the business.  It is the part of the business that had the most headaches and was the least profitable.  An employee is interested in buying it.  I am excited about the changes.  We are really going to push the trophy side of the business.  We used to work the commercial business but I have seen that the trophy side has really been good for us.  The internet really helped with this.  My project for this year is to work out the shipping so customers won't ever have to come in to the store.  They will be able to place their order online and have it shipped to their doorstep.

Stephan Chilton - What is the average wage here?  How do you know what to pay somebody?

Mike Whalen - It depends on the industry.  People coming of school want to sit behind a computer.  They don't want to get their hands dirty.  Employee leasing was my solution to this problem.  They take care of everything including benefits.

You can't base it on minimum wage.  Anybody can go to In & Out Burger and get a job for $8.50.  They don't care if your intent is to teach them a skill and then increase their pay.

Dave Spiess - I can't find anyone worthwhile for less than $12.00.

Randy Clark - Luckily I have my son working for me.  No one wants to do back breaking work.  You spend a lot of money to train somebody and get them certified.  Then they leave to start their own company and try to take your clients with them by offering cheaper rates.  You need to pay them enough to keep them around and maybe try a non-compete clause.

Dean Synan - The most shocking thing I have noticed is a 35% change in residential files each year and 44% with businesses.  So when the yellow pages are put together and handed out 12 months later, expect 44% of it to be out-dated.  We saw a 77% change after 9-11.  Businesses moved or closed.  We have to update daily.  Your customer database is changing too so keep it updated.  Get in front of them at least four times a year.  I have never seen so many resumes from all over the country.  People are willing to take big pay cuts just to get a job.  We have 15+ employees that have been with us for over 20-years.  What we do differently is show our employees that we care.  If they work overtime one night, we bring them breakfast the next morning.  If they have a family crisis, we take care of them.  We just care.  If you are in the service industry, you must tell people in writing that you care. 

Randy Clark - I agree.  I am a big fan of direct mail.  If they are clients, you already told them once.  But you have to tell them again and again.  It is easier to sell to your existing clients than to new ones.  I started doing my newsletter again and business immediately shot up 20%. 

Dean Synan - I have customers on target to grow 35% this year.  One company has had such a successful response to their direct mail campaign that they had to ask us to put the next mailing on hold.  They were getting more business than they could handle.  What a great problem to have!  Another client became a multi-millionaire and credits his direct mail campaign for his success.  He now offers boot camps to other businesses in his industry to help them succeed.  We have learned what works in changing times.  It used to be that you put a graphic on one side of a postcard and your info on the other.  But statistics show that you only have 5-7 seconds to grab the recipient's attention.  You have to put the color and attention grabbing items on the same side as the address.  Graphic artists and advertisers have the hardest time grasping this.

Greg Stewart - We recently added a value line to round out business.  We also began doing 6-month budgets instead of annual budgets.  6-month budgets make more sense and reduce stress.

Randy Clark - We started a referral gift card.  Clients can be your best marketers, especially if they benefit from it.  Our referral program gives the referred customer a discount and the existing customer a percentage of the sale.  If you try something, track it!  Keep using it until it stops working.  I took Dean Synan's advice and made some simple changes to my newsletter and the response was incredible.  I made the trivia question easier which resulted in more phone calls which led to more appointments.

Dean Synan - The anthrax scare has had a huge impact on the increased use of postcard. 

Robert Busch - I spent $1000 on a big ad in the yellow pages and got poor response. 

Dean Synan - I looked into yellow page advertising when I first started.  Their prices were to high for me and they weren't running any specials until the next year.  I told the sales rep I would have to wait.  He said if I didn't advertise with them this year, I wouldn't be around next year.  I have never gone back.

Jana Greene - You will do better if your name is towards the beginning of the alphabet but the bigger advertisements don't always mean better results.

Dave Spiess - Yellow page advertising doesn't work for us here in the Valley - We only get price shoppers.  But it can work in smaller markets.  We bought a company in Casa Grande that had an ad in their local yellow pages.  The response from that ad, where there are only 2-3 competitors in the area, has been incredible. 

Paul Kavanaugh - I have been advertising in the Dex book since I began.  This year I advertised in the Verizon book and received more of a response than in all my years with Dex.

Dean Synan - It is a lighter book and its valley-wide.

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