Meeting Minutes:
Friday, June 30, 2006
Volume 13; Issue 23

 

Table of Contents


Committee Reports

Membership Report
(Click here to go to the Membership page)

No report.

Social Report
(Click here to go to the Social Event page)

No report.

Speaker Coordinator Report
(Click here to go to the Speaker Schedule)

Main Speaker

  • 07/07/06     Ralph Cunningham
  • 07/14/06     TBD
  • 07/21/06     Dave Spiess

Spotlight Speaker

  • 07/07/06     TBD
  • 07/14/06     TBD
  • 07/21/06     TBD

Treasurer Report

No report.


Leads Report

10-20, 15-22, 15-41, 50-26, 14-15.

This week's leads focus...

  • Bob Becker
  • Reg & Jean Batt
  • James Bache
     

Notable Mentions

The Resolution Committee is in the process of resolving the open category conflict for contractors.


Business Spotlight

None.


Main Speaker 

Ziad Fahmy
PhD Candidate (University of Arizona)

Althea Bussert's son-in-law, Ziad Fahmy, spoke at today's meeting.  He is a Fulbright Scholar, and is a doctoral student at the University of Arizona, soon to be awarded a doctorate in Middle East Contemporary History.

Modern history and present conditions in the Middle East.

Ziad Fahmy gave an open discussion where members where free to interject at any time with questions. 

Below are a few comments made...

How did the Middle East become the mess that it is today (or perceived to be)?   It was the colonial powers. 

The borders of Middle Eastern countries have been  arbitrarily drawn on maps.  Most of these borders have been fairly stable.

Control of important land routes became an issue for Great Britain.  There was fear of Russia coming in and taking control.  

Britain made promises to establish rulers.  They controlled from the top.  The French were upset and took over some areas.   

Middle Eastern society is quite vast, including their views on gender issues. There are women in power.

Arabia gained the most power so Britain backed them financially.  In 1928 they become Saudi Arabia.  This country was successful because of oil wells and western support.   They prospered and spread  Wahhabism.  The influence of Wahhabism wasn't originally viewed as treat.

Great Britain scared the US with talks of cold war.  Enter the CIA's Kermit Roosevelt and the father of Stormin' Norman.  Iran had an elected official but the US helped put the Shah in power.  He became a brutal dictator.  The only form of resistance the people had was to turn to Islam.   This also marks the time when the US ceased to be admired and became known as an enemy.

Iraq could not maintain a stable government.  Enter Saddam Hussein. The only way he could rule was with a strong fist.  Democracy as it is now won't work there. Maybe in the long term it may help to split it up and destabilize the area.

It's a mess. They abhor outside interference.  I wanted to be or harbor of good news but...

There will be a civil war. I was against war but if the U.S. pulls out now it will be bloody. Maybe it needs to happen. 10 years later you either have another dictator or fragmentation.  If we stay it is like putting a band-aid on a leaky faucet.  Politically, it won't last here either.  People will put up with it 10 years tops.

U.S. should set a strong tone when helping them set up their government. "Do this." "Don't do this." Then let them hash it out. 

You can't have a democracy unless you have a stable economy. And you need a broader middle class. Instead of spending billions on the war we should spend money building up institutions.  If the kids are fed and people have jobs they won't think about going to war.  Positive reinforcement.  Maybe the surrounding Arabic nations could chip in with the U.S., Great Britain and Japan for the sake of area stability.

Watch Iran.  I doubt it will remain a theocracy in 10 years. I think they will be the big change in the next 6-7 years. 

 
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